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This article is about a Germanic concept of fate. For the Pagan Black Metal Band, see Wyrd (band).

Wyrd is a concept in Old English and Old Norse culture roughly corresponding to sacred, fate, karma, or Synchronicity. The word is ancestral to Modern English weird, which has acquired a very different definition. The cognate term in old Norse is Urðr, with a similar meaning, but also personalized as one of the Norns, Urðr (anglicized as Urd) and appearing in the name of the holy well Urðarbrunnr in Norse mythology. The concept corresponding to "fate" in Old Norse is Ørlǫg.

[edit] Etymology

The Old English term wyrd is attested earliest from Beowulf in 725, and originally developed from the Proto-Germanic term *wurđís. Wyrd is cognate with Old Saxon wurd meaning "fate", Old High German wurt, and Old Icelandic urðr. The term wyrd is also related to the Old English term woerthan, meaning "to become." The term developed into the modern English adjective "weird" around 1400, and was originally used as an adjective for weird sisters. The meaning of "odd" is first attested in 1815.^[1]

The term ørlǫg is from ór "out, from, beyond" and lǫg "law", and may be interpreted literally as "beyond law", or as "fundamental/absolute/primary law". It should not be confused with the Old Norse word "ørlygi" (war), a word still found in Dutch (oorlog) and Swedish (örlog).

[edit] Concept

In a simple sense, Wyrd refers to how past actions continually affect and condition the future, but also how the future affects the past. The concept of Wyrd highlights the interconnected nature of all actions and how they influence each other. Indeed, for a true comprehension it is key for the Wyrd to be embraced as a conceptual mystery, wherein the tides and tidings of time and timelessness flow and weave always, all ways, entwining the reticulum of the fabric of being and non-being.^[2] Wyrd, though conceptually related, is not congruent with predestination. Unlike predestination, the concept of Wyrd allows for one's wyrd or agency: albeit agency 'constrained' (Proto-Germanic: Naudiz) by the wyrds (the intentions and activities) of others, but nevertheless capable of weaving reality. This view is also prominent in the concept of Karma, as used in Indian religions. Wyrd is "inexorable"^[3] and "goes as she shall"^[4], the fate (Norse ørlǫg) woven or scored by the Norns. Indeed, the term's Norse cognate urðr, besides meaning "fate", is the name of one of the Norns, closely related to the concept of necessity (skuld). The name of the younger sister, Verðandi, is strictly the present participle of the verb cognate to weorþan.

According to Voluspa 20, the three Norns "set up the laws", "decided on the lives of the children of time" and "promulgate their Ørlǫg"^[5]. Frigg, on the other hand, while she "knows all ørlǫg", "says it not herself" (Lokasenna 30). ørlǫglausa "ørlǫg-less" occurs in Voluspa 17 in reference to trees (as opposed to humans).

[edit] Attestations

The Old English poem The Wanderer states that "Wyrd bið ful aræd": "Fate remains wholly inexorable". The poem Beowulf tells us that "Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel!": "Fate goes ever as she shall!". Wyrd is the fate (Norse ørlǫg) woven by the Norns, the female personifications of fate or destiny in Norse mythology. The term's Norse cognate urðr, besides meaning 'fate', is the name of one of the Norns, closely related to the concept of necessity (skuld). According to Voluspa 20, one of the poems of the Poetic Edda, the three Norns "set up the laws", "decided on the lives of the children of time" and "promulgate their Ørlǫg"^[5].

.....................we thank you for your light................

Wyrd, in short, is Fate. Yet it is not. Fate lies along similar lines to predestination, to a defined course of action that cannot be altered or shaped, that you in no way may effect. This is not Wyrd.

Wyrd is a thread, woven from a billion threads, of yet a billion more. These smaller threads are our ancestors, their actions, their minds, our own actions, our own minds, and the actions and minds of those around us. Each becomes a separate line of this thread, woven together into what we are and what we shall be, woven together into the universe as we perceive it and as it perceives us. This is Wyrd.

Wyrd responds to your actions because all your actions are Wyrd. Wyrd is all you shall ever be, all that you are, and all that which has made you. The Wyrd of others is woven into yours and forms the essence of all things in this universe, the World Tree of perception whose roots are made from the threads of all things bound together.

Wyrd is inexorable, it cannot be changed, for that very change is Wyrd. It cannot be persuaded to alter course for any course it takes forms it.

This is not to say that your actions are predefined. They are not. Rather, what you do forms who you are, forms Wyrd, and the hurricane of existence that spins about you gives it shape, context, colour, and texture.The foolish are those that think they can undo Wyrd, unravel the thread of their existence. Prevent the inevitable cutting of the thread. They cannot.

For Wyrd is inexorable and goes ever on her way.

"The foolish are those that think they can undo Wyrd, unravel the thread of their existence. Prevent the inevitable cutting of the thread. They cannot."

....................I am filled.....and you can all c y.......................for I now know that the path in which we walk is so........... for it is inexorable.......

and while some will attempt to cover with earth the hidden things of the mind....we together shall unearth what has been laid down as our foundation...

following that which came first..........on our path to "trace" the thread of our inner existence....... we attempt to tap into the true source of all things

seen....and if we are not ready to advance to the next level, ...we find that we will only struggle from lack of being proficient.......

for those of us who have taken time to read every thing .....we welcome you to the next level..........

"4:17  Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."

"A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished."

.................................how many of us will pass on without truly being ready...................?

He's not crazy.  He's playing with us.  Have any of you read any of this?  Pretentious or not, horribly formatted or not, he's done research (albeit on wikipedia, but research nonetheless).  Some of the replies, in particular those of Fuzzy Logic, are also great.

Cry for attention?  Maybe.  But isn't that what the interwebs is all about?  How many of you have Myspace pages?  Twitter?  The hypocritical should kindly stfu then.

I think it's an interesting thread and I see nothing wrong with it. 

Spam?  What, and the "Good Idea Bad Idea" thread isn't?

How quick to judge.

..................................i can see that many have found their way.............. I am filled... ....for it is not natural for us who are alike, to dwell alone....

and i ask of those who have reached this point; and now only start to vision a higher level..................... to take those following ................by the

minds hand......and help them see the error of their judgement........

we all seek the next level.... but if the new are left by the wayside....then will their fruit not rot... 

"Some of the replies, in particular those of Fuzzy Logic, are also great."..................."do you understand what is meant by this comment? How many of

the un aware travelers will seek to destroy such a open statement?.......?????????? ??????????? and why ????....."Energy can not be created or

destoyed....

........and as we've stated.......and as many of you will see.........their are some of us who shall put down our illusions of right and wrong........thereby

allowing us to harvest the hidden manna...........I assure the new reader there is plenty..........

...................."and for the rest of my travelers who have taken time to read all the way from The Begininng.......but still can't help  to think of anything else,

but fire at first glance of the candle light  ......................maybe u should close your eye's"......................LOL

..................................Warp back and reread if you must..........................the rest of us shall wait for your return........

............and for the prepared............................let us teleport to the next...........

....................I SEE THAT MANY OF US HAVE SHARED OUR PATH...............

.......and how do we feel?........................is this what you thought i would be?........

.....then for once you have experienced something new.......

if you do not like the taste...............then would you rather dine on something more aged?

...............there are other items on the menu............for what is served at this altitude, is

complicated by such factors as (temp...pressure..............the turning of "........" bodies...

..................r u 4 many?..................or is it the quality..... "I say let us gather

all......................................

..................is your first breath more or less important than your last?............or have u

forgotten.......???????????

.....................do u c only night and day?..................or is it day time always........................................?

.....................is this a new day?.....................................

........let take a break...........................i heard a joke....

A man walks into a Silicon Valley pet store looking to buy a monkey. The store owner points towards three identical looking monkeys in politically-correct, animal-friendly natural mini-habitats.
"The one on the left costs $500," says the store owner.
"Why so much?" asks the customer.
"Because it can program in C," answers the store owner.
The customer inquires about the next monkey and is told, "That one costs $1500, because it knows Visual C++ and Object-Relational technology."
The startled man then asks about the third monkey. "That one costs $3000," answers the store owner.
"3000 dollars!!" exclaims the man. "What can that one do?"
To which the owner replies, "To be honest, I've never seen it do a single thing, but it calls itself a Consultant."

Thanks to: Dan Swihart - USA.
rec.:Mar/16/2001    pub.:Mar/16/2001    sent:Mar/16/2001

....... lol............well i guess you had to be there to get it....

................who are all these new minds?.....that have you brought with you? ..........r they ready????????????????and if they r not ....send them back to the Beginning................            

... ...

yy's  u r

yy's u b

i c u r

yy's 4 me

........maybe a little humor will put things in order.......

"A team of engineers were required to measure the height of a flag pole. They only had a measuring tape, and were getting quite frustrated trying to keep the tape along the pole. It kept falling down, etc. A mathematician comes along, finds out their problem, and proceeds to remove the pole from the ground and measure it easily. When he leaves, one engineer says to the other: "Just like a mathematician! We need to know the height, and he gives us the length!"

.............another........?

A mathematician and his best friend, an engineer, attend a public lecture on geometry in thirteen-dimensional space. "How did you like it?" the mathematician wants to know after the talk.
"My head's spinning," the engineer confesses. "How can you develop any intuition for thirteen-dimensional space?"
"Well, it's not even difficult.
All I do is visualize the situation in n-dimensional space and then set n = 13."

..............lol........

"An astronomer, a physicist and a mathematician are on a train in Scotland. The astronomer looks out of the window, sees a black sheep standing in a field, and remarks, "How odd. Scottish sheep are black."

"No, no, no!" says the physicist. "Only some Scottish sheep are black."

The mathematician rolls his eyes at his companions' muddled thinking and says, "In Scotland, there is at least one field, containing at least one sheep, at least one side of which appears black from here."

.........I know at least one of you will like this one lol.................

An engineer and a physicist are in a hot-air balloon. After a few hours they lose track of where they are and descend to get directions. They yell to a jogger, "Hey, can you tell us where we're at?"
After a few moments the jogger responds, "You're in a hot-air balloon." The engineer says, "You must be a mathematician." The jogger, shocked, responds, "yeah, how did you know I was a mathematician?"
"Because, it took you far too long to come up with your answer, it was 100% correct, and it was completely useless."

...... ( ;

................I ask you all the same thing I just asked on the next level............what about your breath????????????????

Good intentions should start at the beginning of the day, not after you have been caught...

................"Now were getting somewhere.........."

.......I know that what has been stated, "has more meaning than most will ever admit...."

and they have free will to speak.....regardless of, or lack of a Constitution...for "here".......................... speculative holds equal position with

operative....................and it is "intentions" that hold precedence over deeds......

...........................and if you have just become aware that it is always daytime......

begin...........................and "start a new"................"putting your best foot forward".........