the above post actually made me laugh a bit...

notice though how he still didnt respond to those parts of other posts he quoted...

How bout we stop posting? That's all Senor Capitan McSpammypants wants. It's the OMG LOOOKIEE AT MEEEEEE factor. If we stop feeding the troll, it will GO AWAY. So how about we stop joking on his pseudologic and 'philosphicrap' and leave this thread like a bat outta hell. That's the only way to get through. And make him stop quoting wikipedia. For god's sake I can do a search too! We all can!

..........................................again i say .........

"what a person has or hasn't done,...  really just [depends on who you ask]".................................."This is why I call to the

part of you who builds.".........My choice of delivery? as far as grammer and stucture........."well to just be straight forward is

My choice; and in no way designed to complicate the simple.....................................This blog is written to be read from

THe Beginning........without judgement,...............for it truly offers to those in frequency with its "VIBE"................ And yes, I

to have experienced,................traveled the path of the naysayer..........but it is through physical eye's that we blind

ourselves to the....."lol as you can see, For "now" I write in a fashion for you to share in my experience, allowing your minds

eye to fill in your own truth.  As we can all see, some have already filled in, while others don't have enough "yet" to

cipher?.......................... "to be perfectly

clear".........................I write, in a form that allows the "reader", "both you and I" the different path; for we speed through

so much of our trip, that we often speed through the reading of signs "left" behind; and if not "properly decoded", or written

off as something so easy that it could be said in one sentence...., then how can any thing that was ever recorded in the name

of education, be truly educational ,if the author of the quote does not gain in equal?.....................I have no perch on which

to survey,......for the instant my writing ends, "our reading begins".  It is this time of "reflection" that "I" discovered my own

path, and though not wanting at first to accept its crossing of other travelers path's,  I discover as I read that my path is not

a straight line...............But I have already stated this a great distance back................... and for me to continue forward

quoting "myself", would make my past my charted direction........ (plus make a truth of a false.....

"Right now I have 11 karma. In the Sins forum, that is. It's annoying when I see I got karma, and I'm like: "Oh cool. What did I

do that was cool or helpful?" and I click on it and it says: yngmon, for questioning....

and I just simply *FACEPALM*

I'd characterize that as "sad" actually. Or pathetic.

The Sins forum has no signature function. I will make my own.

____________________________________________________________________________

I AM A SEXY SHOELESS GOD OF WAR!

Cadalancea

How bout we stop posting? That's all Senor Capitan McSpammypants wants. It's the OMG LOOOKIEE AT MEEEEEE factor. If we stop feeding the troll, it will GO AWAY. So how about we stop joking on his pseudologic and 'philosphicrap' and leave this thread like a bat outta hell. That's the only way to get through. And make him stop quoting wikipedia. For god's sake I can do a search too! We all can!

The Schrodinger Equation

The approach suggested by Schrodinger was to postulate a function which would vary in both time and space in a wave-like manner (the so-called wavefunction) and which would carry within it information about a particle or system. The time-dependent Schrodinger equation allows us to deterministically predict the behaviour of the wavefunction over time, once we know its environment. The information concerning environment is in the form of the potential which would be experienced by the particle according to classical mechanics.

Whenever we make a measurement on a Quantum system, the results are dictated by the wavefunction at the time at which the measurement is made. It turns out that for each possible quantity we might want to measure (an observable) there is a set of special wavefunctions (known as eigenfunctions) which will always return the same value (an eigenvalue) for the observable. e.g.....

EIGENFUNCTION       always returns      EIGENVALUE
  psi_1(x,t)                               a_1
  psi_2(x,t)                               a_2
  psi_3(x,t)                               a_3
  psi_4(x,t)                               a_4
  etc....                                  etc....
  
where (x,t) is standard notation to remind us that the eigenfunctions psi_n(x,t)
are dependent upon position (x) and time (t).

Even if the wavefunction happens not to be one of these eigenfunctions, it is always possible to think of it as a unique superposition of two or more of the eigenfunctions, e.g....

 
psi(x,t) = c_1*psi_1(x,t) + c_2*psi_2(x,t) + c_3*psi_3(x,t) + ....

where c_1, c_2,.... are coefficients which define the composition of the state.

If a measurement is made on such a state, then the following two things will happen:

1. The wavefunction will suddenly change into one or other of the eigenfunctions making it up. This is known as the collapse of the wavefunction and the probability of the wavefunction collapsing into a particular eigenfunction depends on how much that eigenfunction contributed to the original superposition. More precisely, the probability that a given eigenfunction will be chosen is proportional to the square of the coefficient of that eigenfunction in the superposition, normalised so that the overall probability of collapse is unity (i.e. the sum of the squares of all the coefficients is 1).


2. The measurement will return the eigenvalue associated with the eigenfunction into which the wavefunction has collapsed. Clearly therefore the measurement can only ever yield an eigenvalue (even though the original state was not an eigenfunction), and it will do so with a probability determined by the composition of the original superposition. There are clearly only a limited number of discrete values which the observable can take. We say that the system is quantised (which means essentially the same as discretised).

Once the wavefunction has collapsed into one particular eigenfunction it will stay in that state until it is perturbed by the outside world. The fundamental limitation of Quantum Mechanics lies in the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which tells us that certain quantum measurements disturb the system and push the wavefunction back into a superposed state once again.

For example, consider a measurement of the position of a particle. Before the measurement is made the particle wavefunction is a superposition of several position eigenfunctions, each corresponding to a different possible position for the particle. When the measurement is made the wavefunction collapses into one of these eigenfunctions, with a probability determined by the composition of the original superposition. One particular position will be recorded by the measurement: the one corresponding to the eigenfunction chosen by the particle.

If a further position measurement is made shortly afterwards the wavefunction will still be the same as when the first measurement was made (because nothing has happened to change it), and so the same position will be recorded. However, if a measurement of the momentum of the particle is now made, the particle wavefunction will change to one of the momentum eigenfunctions (which are not the same as the position eigenfunctions). Thus, if a still later measurement of the position is made, the particle will once again be in a superposition of possible position eigenfunctions, so the position recorded by the measurement will once again come down to probability. What all this means is that one cannot know both the position and the momentum of a particle at the same time because when you measure one quantity you randomise the value of the other. See below....

notation: x=position, p=momentum

       action           |           wavefunction after action
       -----------------|-----------------------------------------------------
       start            |  superposition of x and/or p eigenfunctions
       measure x        |  x eigenfunction = superposition of p eigenfunctions
       measure x again  |  same x eigenfunction
       measure p        |  p eigenfunction = superposition of x eigenfunctions
       measure x again  |  x eigenfunction (not necessarily same one as before)

Precisely what constitutes a measurement and the process by which the wavefunction collapses are two issues I am not even going to touch on. Suffice to say they are still matters for vigorous debate !

At any rate, in a macroscopic system the wavefunctions of the many component particles are constantly being disturbed by measurement-like processes, so a macroscopic measurement on the system only ever yields a time- and particle- averaged value for an observable. This averaged value need not, of course, be an eigenvalue, so we do not generally observe quantisation at the macroscopic level (the correspondence principle again). If we are to investigate the microscopic behaviour of particles we would (in an ideal world) like to know the wavefunctions of any individual particles at any given instant in time....

The time-dependent Schrodinger equation allows us to calculate the wavefunctions of particles, given the potential in which they move. Importantly, all the solutions of this equation will vary over time in some kind of wave-like manner, but only certain solutions will vary in a predictable pure sinusoidal manner. These special solutions of the time-dependent Schrodinger equation turn out to be the energy eigenfunctions, and can be written as a time-independent factor multiplied by a sinusoidal time-dependent factor related to the energy (in fact the frequency of the sine wave is given by the relation E=h*frequency). Because of the simple time-dependence of these functions the time-dependent Schrodinger equation reduces to the time-independent Schrodinger equation for the time-independent part of the energy eigenfunctions. That is to say that we can find the energy eigenfunctions simply by solving the time-independent Schrodinger equation and multiplying the solutions by a simple sinusoidal factor related to the energy. It should therefore always be remembered that the solutions to the time-independent Schrodinger equation are simply the amplitudes of the solutions to the full time-dependent equation.

The bottom line is that we can use the time-dependent Schrodinger equation (or often the simpler time-independent version) to tell us what the wavefunctions of a quantum system are, entirely deterministically. That is, we do not have to resort to the language of probability. Once we try to apply this knowledge to the real world (i.e. to predict the outcome of measurements, etc) then we have to speak in terms of probabilities.

As a last point, it is important to realise that there is no real physical interpretation for the wavefunction. It simply contains information regarding the system to which it refers. However, one of the most important characteristics of a wavefunction is that the square of its magnitude is a measure of the probability of finding a particle described by the wavefunction at a given point in space. That is, in regions where the square of the magnitude of the wavefunction is large, the probability of finding the particle in that region is also large, and vice versa.

To "spam"...........or "not" to spam?.................

I can read, even though others would have me think not, and That is a blessing, for in my quest for understanding others, I understand myself......

I can agree, I am not God, or fallen angel, I am a mortal, and it is because my logic can apear fuzzy to myself, my search within has lead me out...

"If a measurement is made on such a state, then the following two things will happen:

1. The wavefunction will suddenly change into one or other of the eigenfunctions making it up. This is known as the collapse of the wavefunction and the probability of the wavefunction collapsing into a particular eigenfunction depends on how much that eigenfunction contributed to the original superposition. More precisely, the probability that a given eigenfunction will be chosen is proportional to the square of the coefficient of that eigenfunction in the superposition, normalised so that the overall probability of collapse is unity (i.e. the sum of the squares of all the coefficients is 1).
   
2. The measurement will return the eigenvalue associated with the eigenfunction into which the wavefunction has collapsed. Clearly therefore the measurement can only ever yield an eigenvalue (even though the original state was not an eigenfunction), and it will do so with a probability determined by the composition of the original superposition. There are clearly only a limited number of discrete values which the observable can take. We say that the system is quantised (which means essentially the same as discretised).

Once the wavefunction has collapsed into one particular eigenfunction it will stay in that state until it is perturbed by the outside world. The fundamental limitation of Quantum Mechanics lies in the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which tells us that certain quantum measurements disturb the system and push the wavefunction back into a superposed state once again."

...............................................There is knowledge here.....................................................................

"The bottom line is that we can use the time-dependent Schrodinger equation (or often the simpler time-independent version) to tell us what the wavefunctions of a quantum system are, entirely deterministically. That is, we do not have to resort to the language of probability. Once we try to apply this knowledge to the real world (i.e. to predict the outcome of measurements, etc) then we have to speak in terms of probabilities.

As a last point, it is important to realise that there is no real physical interpretation for the wavefunction. It simply contains information regarding the system to which it refers. However, one of the most important characteristics of a wavefunction is that the square of its magnitude is a measure of the probability of finding a particle described by the wavefunction at a given point in space. That is, in regions where the square of the magnitude of the wavefunction is large, the probability of finding the particle in that region is also large, and vice versa."

..............for even when our paths cross, we shall each arrive by our own probability...

and if there is no real physical interpretation for the wavefunction?......................then is not writing down, and allowing information to transfer inward

through the minds eye, the only way for us all to take our own time?  FOr it is in the mind that time exist..........., because time only passes in the

minds of those who are counting...

roomer roomette roomie rooming house roommate roomy roorback roost rooster root (1) root (2) root (3) root ball root beer root canal root cap root cellar Print Preview   See pronunciation key   Search for "rooster" in all of MSN Encarta   E-mail this entry   Blog about this entry on MSN Spaces   Download the MSN Encarta Right-Click Dictionary rooster         roost·er [ rstər ] (plural roost·ers) noun    Definition:   1. adult male chicken: an adult male of a domestic fowl, usually only kept for breeding. Roosters have a distinctive crowing call. 2. U.S. arrogant man: a man who is regarded as cocky, vain, or posturing ( sometimes offensive )   Encarta® World English Dictionary [North American Edition] © & (P)2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc.

.....................JUST TO GET A DIFFERENT OPINION.................

Dictionary

Find in Dictionary   Thesaurus Translations ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ophthalmol. ophthalmology ophthalmoscope ophthalmoscopy -opia opiate OPIC opine opinion opinion poll opinion shopping opinionated opinionative opioid opioid peptide opisthobranch opisthognathous Print Preview See pronunciation key Search for "opinion" in all of MSN Encarta   E-mail this entry Blog about this entry on MSN Spaces Download the MSN Encarta Right-Click Dictionary opinion         o·pin·ion [ ə pínnyən ] (plural o·pin·ions) noun    Definition:   1. personal view: the view somebody takes about an issue, especially when it is based solely on personal judgment In my opinion it's all a waste of time. 2. estimation: a view regarding the worth of somebody or something They had a pretty low opinion of me. 3. expert view: an expert assessment of something I told the doctor I wanted a second opinion. 4. body of generally held views: the view or views held by most people or by a large number of people pundits and other opinion formers 5. law conclusion of fact: a conclusion drawn from observation of the facts [14th century. Via French< Latin opinion-< opinari "suppose"] be a matter of opinion to be open to dispute or debate be of the opinion that to think that something is the case   Encarta® World English Dictionary [North American Edition] © & (P)2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc.

.......................hOW CAn we ever understand " ... "             If we dont believe in 1???

........................Or?..............do you not believe anything........ because all you see is a

lie in the center?  Look for good so that you my truly see evil for its nature...one of lies

and deception...

It is only on the path of awarness, that one may begin a boycott of the boycott...

.....................I can see that you have traveled far...  DO you seek wages for your effort?

How much do you require?  You say you still don't want your change?   How many times

will you donate?  are there any who have followed your trail?......you now have multiple

holes

in you bucket...And though your path "to" the source was left unmarked........Your return

home has become highly visible, do to the foreign substance leaking from your

container...

Here is a simple way at looking at the mental math you created...

Question: What is 94 times 96= ?     and how do you work it out....?..............

"In your head"??????????????????????????

........................Traveler..............I now share with you the answer.... For some of you

already know, but for those that don't...........

TO keep it simple.... " JUst think of 10, 100, etc as being a good base to start for this type math problem...        

94 is 6 away from a 100..........and 96 is 4 away from a hundred... easy

Lets use the lowest number 94 first...

lets say the smallest number is always going to be multiplied by 100... keep it simple.

So 94 is 9400... got it.  Then lets move on to the bigger number  96.

96 is 4 away from 100, so we multiply 4 times 100= 400

lets say the biggest numbers distance from 100 is always going to be multiplied by 100... keep it simple...you got it? I dont want to lose u... read it again if you have to..."no one is counting" "lol"..................one more thing to remember about the biggest number, in this case 400.  YOU WILL ALWAYS SUBTRACT THIS NUMBER" KEEP IT SIMPLE..."

The last part............94 is 6 away from 100,    and 96 is 4 away form 100... so multiply

4 times 6 = 24

now for the complete answer:    9400- 400 + 24 = 9024

The whole goal is to use your minds eye for math....in your head.

another one,....."you do this one yourself"..................

97 times 98 =?

..............Yes i know i didn't tell you to always add the smallest number that you get when

you multiply the two distances from a 100 by each other......EX. as in the 4 times the 6 is

24.  But I knew you would pick up on that by now. "lol"

..........But yes math can be this easy...lets solve the problem given... 97 times 98 =

9700 - 200 + 6 = 9506

another one... 93 times 99= ?

9300 - 100 + 7 = 9207.........."get it"?......."got it?".........."good".............

"Share with someone"............................so as to make "room" for which is to come...

...................."Well"........."lol"................

Have you forgot your breath all this time??

......Dreaming..........

If it makes you feel better; i to find my self starting at THe Beginning.....

This is the first among many steps to come...

spelling mistake, you are going to have to start the entire thing again.SORRY!